Curse

Stockholm · Feb 17, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Not bad for someone who never went to English schools, but learnt from reading crappy internet forums.

Slaine · Feb 17, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

you guys act like because of one incident that all of america lets their kids run around with a shotgun.

Stockholm · Feb 17, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Slaine

you guys act like because of one incident that all of america lets their kids run around with a shotgun.

it's not the first incident with "kid's" and guns is it?
Gun's are simply put too easy to get for Kid's, either stealing one at home or buying from friends.

I'm not saying guns should be banned, but more parental control is needed (gun safes and such, that kids don't have keys or combinations to)

I pwnd U · Feb 17, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Aera

Buuuuuuuuuuut I think we can agree this wouldn't have happened in the first place if that father wasn't allowed to have a gun ( and thus not have one either ) in the first place

But yeah. People are sick. Even kids. Concluded this a long time ago.

So basically you are saying take away the 2nd Amendment which gives people the right to bear arms? Would anger lots of people.

In Illinois, where I live, for a person to obtain a gun legally there is a process.

1) Must obtain a Firearm Owner's Identification(FOID) card which requires you to send an application and picture to the state police for a full background check.
2)After the background check, IF cleared, you get your card and if over the age of 21 can go purchase a handgun (18+ can get a rifle). Once at the store you can purchase the rifle but again you are run through the system that looks for any felonies.
3)After purchasing the gun for a handgun one must wait 3 days to pick it up, and 24 hours for a rifle.

Doesn't seem like much but the 1st step is what stops anyone with a criminal record or anything out of the ordinary from obtaining one. I would be all for this being put into place in the whole US. Would keep people who should not have a firearm away from one. It's a pain to go through but if you have a good record you are fine.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/...d_rankings.pdf

Shows the rankings of the places from hardest to obtain a firearm to easiest. In South Carolina it is fairly easy to obtain a firearm as shown.

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SECTION 23-31-20. Purchase of rifle or shotgun in this State by resident of any state.

A resident of any state may purchase rifles and shotguns in this State if the resident conforms to applicable provisions of statutes and regulations of this State, the United States, and of the state in which the person resides.

That is a law pertaining to purchase of a shotgun/rifle in South Carolina.

All this is good and fun BUT the fact is, even with harsher gun laws and even if an FOID system was implemented had the father taken correct percautions (as in locking up the gun) this never would of happened. 2nd, who the heck teaches their 10 year old son how to load and fire a gun?!?! Parenting breakdown tbh.

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

it's not the first incident with "kid's" and guns is it?
Gun's are simply put too easy to get for Kid's, either stealing one at home or buying from friends.

I'm not saying guns should be banned, but more parental control is needed (gun safes and such, that kids don't have keys or combinations to)

OMG GUN SAFE!! If you own a gun you should ALWAYS have a gun safe or a locked place to put them. The dad didn't, had he this never would have happened. Should be required that if you own a firearm you MUST have a safe to put them in that is inaccesible by children.

credit · Feb 17, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

So basically you are saying take away the 2nd Amendment which gives people the right to bear arms? Would anger lots of people.

I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't have everyone running around with guns.

Onarik Amrak · Feb 17, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I guess he really loves his chips.

Are you eye-balling my chips? ...stay away! IS MINE!

I pwnd U · Feb 17, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by credit

I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't have everyone running around with guns.

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The Act required Canadian gun owners to apply for a license by January 1, 2001, from the Canadian Firearms Centre, a branch of the Justice Department, and register their guns with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) by the beginning of 2003. Associated amendments to the Criminal Code in 1996 increased the penalties for using firearms to commit crimes and for the illegal trafficking and smuggling of guns.

The registration of all handguns has been required by federal law since 1934, and since 1968 permits to carry them have been restricted to a few specific circumstances, for example, use in target practice or competition, protection in extreme cases where police protection isn't adequate, and in certain jobs, such as transporting large amounts of cash or other valuables. Fully automatic weapons have been banned since 1977. The new law extends the registration requirement to unrestricted long guns such as shotguns and rifles and adds short-barrelled handguns and those discharging 25- or 32-calibre cartridges to the list of prohibited weapons.

Candian Gun Law, alot stricter then American gun law. Second, not everyone is running around with guns. Around 80%+ of the people I know do not own any type of firearm. Most people that own firearms are hunters or collectors. My guess is the dad is a duck hunter or deer hunter. Probably was a buckshot shell, the newscast didn't say anything about the gun other then it was a shotgun. I assume that he is a hunter, but again 1)Why was it not locked up? and 2)Why teach a 10 yr old to load and fire a gun? Neither of those should happen and are on the dad's shoulders to do so. Gun control laws only work when the citizens FOLLOW them.

credit · Feb 17, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Candian Gun Law, alot stricter then American gun law. Second, not everyone is running around with guns. Around 80%+ of the people I know do not own any type of firearm. Most people that own firearms are hunters or collectors. My guess is the dad is a duck hunter or deer hunter. Probably was a buckshot shell, the newscast didn't say anything about the gun other then it was a shotgun. I assume that he is a hunter, but again 1)Why was it not locked up? and 2)Why teach a 10 yr old to load and fire a gun? Neither of those should happen and are on the dad's shoulders to do so. Gun control laws only work when the citizens FOLLOW them.

Someone said it above, rednecks are the problem.

Redfeather1975 · Feb 17, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I think the problem is how people are brought up. Rules/laws, punishments and hiding guns, don't really deter the behaviour shown in this news article as much as we'd like to hope.

When I was 10 I lived with a very strict Roman Catholic family. If they got wind of me doing something wrong I'd be punished harshly. I got the belt, I got the soap in the mouth. I had some humiliating punishments too.
It didn't turn me into a better person. It made me worse.
I learned how to lie really well. My parents had no idea at the age of 10 I had...
Broken a girls arm.
Beat up a kid with a baseball bat.
Fired a gun.
Pounded a friend's face into the dirt yelling 'die you f'ing n---er, die'.
I let my feelings consume me and anything they made me want to do I did. I just got damn good at covering it up and hiding it out of intense fear of being punished. I could not cope with anger and fear back then.

I only said all this to try and say it's all about how we are brought up and how we are taught to cope with our feelings. Hiding guns or punishing us doesn't affect how we feel, it only motivates how we go about doing what we want. Which can lead to deeper problems. The only thing having a gun locked up would do is motivate me to become a better lock picker.

A person with good coping skills can handle their feelings. Their feelings don't loop around and stack up over and over until it becomes overwhelming.

Aera · Feb 17, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08

I can has bear arms?

fenix · Feb 17, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

If no one was allowed to have guns, then there would be no NEED to have them. It's such a stupid section of the constitution anyway, just gives people to ability to go out and shoot up a school, or rob something. Australia had a problem with automatic rifles, so we banned them. Then the ban stopped people using most of every other kind of gun too. America needs to get with the times and stop people having guns, there's no need.... unless your sister won't share chips...ha ha ha.

Stockholm · Feb 17, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by fenix

If no one was allowed to have guns, then there would be no NEED to have them.

The criminals will still have guns, no matter what the law says.
It's not the law allowing guns thats the problem, it's the way some people store and handle guns thats the problem, 99% of the gun owners do it right and you never hear about them.

Slaine · Feb 17, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

do you honestly think that if people weren't allowed to have them that they wouldn't?
people aren't allowed to have weed, but they sure do have it.

Stockholm · Feb 17, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Slaine

people aren't allowed to have weed, but they sure do have it.

They do?

Bryant Again · Feb 17, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Just saying that can't blame gun control. Canada probably has more hunters than us by like a bajillion and they get like what, 3 gun murders a year?

Issac · Feb 17, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07

You know what kid must have been struggling trying to pick up the gun and hold it straight. Think about the recoil he felt after he shoot it. Still thats a sad story .

credit · Feb 17, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Slaine

people aren't allowed to have weed, but they sure do have it.

Even though it's decriminalized so much in Canada it may as well be legal, I'm RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing baked every day.

Cherng Butter · Feb 17, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

This sort of reminds me of Bowling for Columbine.

Mesmer in Need · Feb 17, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

This is why having kids should be a privilege, not a right. First off, the kid obviously knew how to use the gun, who do you think taught him? I know where my dad keeps his guns, but as far as knowing how to use them, no. I also know better then to pull one on one of my family members. Parents fault 100%.

Diddy bow · Feb 17, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Mabay she will learn to share now?

I joke ^^, but redneck power, people should need to complete some kind of test before they are allowed guns ¬¬